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this, for example, is what happened to the vix on october 24th, 2008, that big red arrow there. that's when the stock market crashed in '08, one of the worst days of the great recession, record high vix. another spike happened may 20th, 2010, when there was sudden news that europe's economy was even in worse shape than we thought. it spiked at a two-year high august 8th, 2011, when the u.s. credit rating got downgraded. republicans in congress had threatened to default on our national debt, and the credit rating got downgraded. as you can see there, wall street freaked out. vix went way up. you can think of a high vix reading, a spike in the vix as a red light flashing. alert, alert. maybe your economy is tanking. maybe it isn't. but a lot of people on wall street have reason to believe that it is. panic. well, today, as he kicks off his inauguration weekend, president obama was given a great present
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by the vix. this is the present that vix gave to barack obama today to celebrate his inauguration as a second-term president of the united states. look. hmm. happy inauguration, mr. president. things are kind of okay. in fact, today's low vix is the lowest vix since the spring of 2007. that's vix going down. vix is low. fear is low. also for the record, the dow jones hit a five-year high today. mazel tov, mr. president. have a great weekend. the reason for this, this low vix dropping, for this opposite of a freak out, simple. eric cantor telling the world, folks, next week we will authorize a three-month temporary debt ceiling increase. that was the announcement from the majority leader of the house republicans announcing they are giving up on what they had been saying for months was their
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plan, to not approve an increase in the debt ceiling to thereby push the country again into a self-imposed economic crisis and threat of defaulting on our national debt, and all of the economic panic, we know that causes, because they did it before, thaw they did it in 2011, and eric cantor announced today they are not going to do that again, even though they had been saying for months that they would. they gave up today on that threat. that's why the vix panic index stopped panicking today. that's the nice kickoff for what should be a nice weekend for the president. the white house unveiled the new official portrait. the second term one to refresh your memory. this is the first term one. same flag pin, similar blue tie, i guess. lots more gray up top. i don't know why they decided to go from the close cropped i.d. photo look from the first term to the i'm standing here in my office and i'm happy to be here look. i kind of like the new big and new smiling one.
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check this out. actually, there is a direct parallel here for a previous two-term president. this is ronald reagan's first-term portrait and this is ronald reagan's second-term portrait. put those up, side by side. that is how president reagan went from portrait one to portrait two. start of term one to start of term two. now look at president obama. see similarities there? it's not like every president does this. just reagan and now obama. i think people make too much of the political parallels between obama and reagan, but aesthetically, you kind of can't make too much of this one. in this case in the evolution of the official portrait, i think you can make as much of this parallel agency you want to, h because that's kind of an uncanny think. don't you think? the newport rat is out. the new term is about to start. we here at msnbc and everybody in the news business is gearing up for inaugural weekend coverage. this will be my second time covering an inauguration. we'll have the whole schedule for you of when everything happens and when it's going to be on tv. how can you catch all the good stuff.
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that's coming up a little later on in the show tonight, but, of course, at times like this, new bbies like me who have only covered one of these before or none of these before, we often turn to the veteran journalists among us for advice on how to handle an event like this, how to get the most out of an event that frankly is way too big to take in at once. the paragon of experience and grace under pressure was, of course, the great andrea mitchell who set a new standard in 2008 for dauntless reporting in coverage of a marathon political event including a memorable turn on ap flatbed truck. on andrea's show today, 1:00 show on msnbc, andrea was talking about previous inaugurations and in so doing she was able to show footage of herself covering all of the inaugurations she has covered. it wasn't just 2009. right? it was 2005, george bush's second inaugural. she also covered 2001, the first bush inaugural.
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it was 1997, the bill clinton second inaugural. it was 1993, the first bill clinton inaugural. she was there also in 1989 when george bush, the elder took over. she was there in 1985, president reagan's re-election. she was there in 1981, the first reagan inaugural. that's andrea mitchell. if i end up doing these for as long as andrea mitchell has done these, i will be covering every inauguration from now until 2041, by which time i will be coming to you, presumably, as a hologram. so help me god. one of the things that is specific to covering a second inaugural, as opposed to a first inaugural when one president is leaving and another is starting, and we're covering a second inauguration, like we will be this year, there is something a little bit different. there is a sense governing is already under way. that you already know that this plaed started something that he intends to finish in his second term. sort of a sense of continuity, well informed expectation about
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what kind of president this is going to be and where he is likely to go. when president obama was inaugurated the first time, there was none of that certainty and expectation, right? the country and all of us were caught up in the historical enormity of the fact that the united states of america was about to swear in our first african-american president. and that eight years of republican administration under bush and cheney was coming to an end. that inauguration in 2009 was such a dramatic break from the past, toward a whole new future that i don't think anybody expects that we will have an inauguration quite as consequential as the last one. maybe ever again. but we now know, as part of the historical record, that while the whole country was marveling at the enormity of the transition we were making on inauguration night 2009 something else was going on that night in washington and it had a very different vibe. it was first reported in robert draper's book, do not ask what good we do inside the u.s. house of representatives.
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it came out this past april. in the frontline documentary that aired this week on pbs, they got everybody to go on record about this. lest you thought this was an apocryphal thing, turns out this did happen. that very first night that president obama was president obama. watch. >> on the very night barack obama was inaugurated, a group of republicans quietly gathered to develop plans for taking on the new president. >> a meeting, a dinner took place in the famous steakhouse in downtown washington with newt gingrich as sort of the emcee, as it were. >> the gathering of gop luminaries, top conservative congressman eric cantor, paul ryan, senate power brokers jim demint, jon kyl, tom coburn,
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and event organizer frank luntz. >> they decided that they needed to begin to fight obama on everything. this meant unyielding opposition to every one of the obama administration's legislative initiatives. they all talked about this and they began to get more and more optimistic and they left feeling practically exuberant. >> full of events, ten. count them, ten. >> across washington that evening -- >> stunning crowd of people. >> the new president had no idea what the republicans were planning. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states and first lady michelle obama. >> surrounded by supporters at the inaugural balls, the mood was hopeful. ♪ at last my love >> president obama didn't have a full sense of what washington was going to be like for him.
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he had not been in the middle of these kind of down and dirty fights. the ugly reality of governing in washington today. >> that really did end up being a hallmark of president obama's first term in office. right? what happened that first night, that first night of his inauguration, what the republicans were meeting about in washington that night became the story of a large part of his first term, trying to negotiate, trying to bargain, trying to come to middle ground with republicans and republicans saying, no, no. no, no, never. no, no. no matter what he offered. that is why we had a first term in which this president kept offering the republicans, that he would go along with their republican ideas and mysteriously, they would even say no to their own ideas. >> this law failed by seven votes. when seven republicans, who had co-sponsored the bill, had co-sponsored the idea, suddenly walked away from their own proposal after i endorsed it.
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so they make a proposal, sign on to the bill. i say, great. good idea. i turned around -- they're gone. what happened? >> this was a hallmark of president obama's first term. republicans were going to say no, no, no, no matter what he offered. even if what he offered was their own idea in the first place. that is how it went for months and then that is how it went for years. and now, what's new? he is not doing that anymore. >> i have put forward a very clear principle. i will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. you know, we're not going to play the same game that we saw happen in 2011. so we're not going to do that. but i will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. we're not going to do that again. >> as i said earlier this week, one of the things i will not compromise over is whether or not congress
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should pay the tab for a bill they've already racked up. >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with the gun at the head of the american people. that's not how we're going to do it this time. >> this evolution in the president's strategy for dealing with republicans and recognizing their strategy against him and knowing what he can and cannot expect to get out of them. on the last business day of his first term, it paid off today. and them giving up their demand that he needed to negotiate with them on the debt ceiling. today they recognized that they were not going to get that. and today the republicans caved. and the vix was very happy. at this point, the republicans are still trying to hand contingencies on this. they're still trying to say, they're only going to cave for three months, and then they'll be back to demanding negotiations again, but essentially it is over. president obama called their bluff. business interests, markets, people that make decisions that contribute to this would blame them if they screwed up the country's economy again on purpose like they did in 2011. they have shown that they care enough about that to avoid that
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eventuality. they will no longer be able to make that bluff again, in three months or ever. so today they are saying, ah, three months, we're going to be back here, but nobody believes them. this weekend, the other thing that's happening in washington is the obama campaign legacy project. 4,000 obama campaign volunteers and supporters will be meeting this weekend at a hotel in washington, with the top brass of the obama election campaign, to talk about how the organization that got this president elected, not just once, but twice, can now be used for maximum political effect during his second term. the heavies of the obama political team. senior adviser david plouffe. former top aides like robert gibbs, are all now going to be part of a permanent campaign organization called organizing for action. it was announced today in a video by president obama and the first lady. nothing like this has ever happened before. politicians have talked before about the idea of a permanent campaign, but the campaign structure that elected a
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president has never formally been turned into an organization designed to exist outside that white house in order to help that president get done what he wants to get done. the group says their first three priorities are supporting the changes that the president just proposed to stop gun violence, also climate change, also immigration. any one of those things is a huge political lift. taking on all three of them is a sign, i think, of seriousness for how hard this white house is planning on fighting for those things in the second term and the kinds of resources they are planning to bring to bear. four years ago in 2009, our country inaugurated our first-ever african-american president. we had never done that before as a nation. four years later, this weekend, we are also doing something new. we are inaugurating this particular president again. grayer, maybe even skinnier than he was before. wiser. definitely happy to be here. and under absolutely no illusions about who he can work
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but i will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. we're not going to do that again. >> after president obama spent his first term, much of it, at least, tripes to negotiate with republicans in congress, he made it very clear recently that he would not play that same game again. on the debt ceiling. not again. and today after months of insisting that the president really did have to negotiate with them on that, republicans in congress gave up. david corn "showdown," the stand off the president faced with republicans. david, thanks for being here. >> good evening, rachel. >> eric cantor says, yeah, we're going to give up, but only for three months. what did you make of that? >> i'm the last guy who wants to cause a spike in the vix, but, you know, there are a couple of things to think about here.
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i call this plan r for run away. but we know that john boehner often has had trouble with his various plans. plan b most notoriously, getting them approved, accepted and passed by his own house republicans. and cantor made a very declarative statement today. we're going to bring this to a vote, and when you do that, usually you think you have the votes, but immediately there were grumblings that some house republicans will go along with this i'm not sure that democrats will, too. so it remains to be seen whether or not john boehner and cantor can get passed what they want to do, and, then again this is just another three-month extension. now the good news for the vix watchers out there is that this puts it past, you know, the coming showdowns on sequestration and the cr, all washington terms involving the budget, which will all kind of happen in march. so this is one cliff that may not happen while two other cliffs are underway.
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three months from now, depending what happens with those cliffs and what happens with the economy, the house republicans, the tea partiers and the let's blow it to hell members of the republican caucus may not want to go along with this for another extension. so the president has clearly won. he's stared them down, as he said they would, and they've come up with a temporary retreat that may turn into a permanent retreat, but it's still not quite resolved. >> i totally agree with you. it's not resolved and i don't think we know exactly how this will play out on the republican side and whether this three-month thing is ultimately going to fly. but with the republicans sort of blinking here, and at least going to chaos mode, what do you make of the president's change in strategy on this? i mean, how do you think -- having written "showdown" how he dealt with these things before, how he's dealing with it now, do you think he was evolved in how to best deal with these things? >> i think my answer is yes and no.
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one of the things about showdown, during the previous debt ceiling one of the issues was, when would the next debt ceiling be reached? remember, the republicans -- and even harry reid suggested that they do this every six months. let's get a temporary extension and come back in six months. at one point the republicans were proposing three extensions, three votes before the next election. and the president, meeting with his own aides about this said that's it. i'm done. i'm not doing this. this is not how the constitution was meant -- was designed. our founding fathers did not envision a day when members of congress could hold the president hostage by not paying the bills they themselves had racked up. and as often happens in these situations, the cooler heads on his staff said, well, mr. president, we understand how you feel, but we may have to cut the -- no. i'm not going to do it. he was very firm because he believed it was not just affecting him but about preserving the status of the presidency for future presidents. and in the end one of the things he was most proud of in that
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deal was not giving in to that. but at the time, the debt ceiling story had not been fully told. at the beginning of that fight, the poll was something like -- he asked the public, should the debt ceiling be raised? 85-15 against. the president was really on the wrong side. by the end of it, it had evened out in the polls and republicans ended up being blamed more so. and the economy was also in a more fragile position than it even is now. the president and people around him were much worried about what a default might do in terms of a financial crisis here and abroad. fast forward to now, and i think the president won the message debate. he convinced the public that playing, you know, hostage-taking with the debt ceiling was the wrong thing to do, and he also now has the business community, all of those people watching the vix who don't want to go through that again.
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so he's in a much stronger position now to take back the stance that he felt back then. circumstances have made it easier for him to play this game of chicken and actually, at least, win for the next three months. >> even that is fascinating. taking it from the table with his advisers which you were able to report to now taking it to the podium, pound his fist on the podium, and getting his way. this is going to be exciting. starts this weekend. david corn, washington bureau chief. >> i hope so. >> it feels like it already. starts this weekend. thank you. it's great to have you here on a friday night. >> thank you, rachel. what is it like doing your job. stay tuned. [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix.
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on the day the supreme court ruled women in this country have a constitutionally protected right to have an abortion, that ruling got second billing on front pages around the country. that's because it happen the on the same day that lbj died.
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privileges bill gives us the best chance to do that. >> we have literally stopped abortion in the state of mississippi. the only -- [ applause ] the only in the state of mississippi, a bill drafted saying, if you will do abortion in the state of mississippi you must be a certified ob/gyn with rigs to a hospital. do you know how hard it is to get admitted to the hospital. >> if you are not in the medical field, how hard it proved for the state's own admitting abortion clinic, it proved to be impossible. no hospital, not one, has been willing to grant privileges to the doctors who work at mississippi's only remaining abortion clinic. the clinic's owner tells the a.p. that the doctors applied for multiples hospitals and were
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turned down by every one of them. that, of course, was the point. the governor, the lieutenant governor, the state's legislators of mississippi admit that what they've been trying to do in their state is end women's access to abortion. constitutionally, the state cannot make it illegal, but that has not stopped republicans and state government there from trying to make it impossible. the last clinic in the state, which does a lot more than provide abortions, i should say, the deadline for that clinic to comply with this new state law, enacted specifically to close it down, that deadline was last friday. the day before that deadline, mississippi governor phil bryant reminded a room full of pastors at an anti-abortion luncheon why it is he signed that bill in the first place. >> my goal, of course, is to shut it down. >> my goal, he says, is to shut it down, of course. after friday's deadline passed, the next step was to make the health department make an unannounced visit to the clinic to determine whether the fast was in compliance with the law. that visit happened this week. no word yet on the state's
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findings from the visit but the clinic has already said publicly that it has not been able to comply with these designed to be impossible to comply with new laws. once it receives the state's report, the clinic will have ten days to ask the health department for a hearing. at that hearing the state could presumably close the clinic for good, the last clinic in the state. then there will be no legal access to abortion in the state of mississippi. the first state to have figured out a way to do that since roe versus wade, established 40 years ago this week that supposedly that could never again happen in our country. the mississippi health department's unannounced visit to the last clinic in the state happened on wednesday. that was also coincidentally the day our producers at that show were at the clinic to document what it was like to be the last holdout in the first state that could be about to
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reverse the preroe versus wade in america. >> are we at the point right now where you don't know if the clinic will be able to stay open? >> we have no idea whether the clinic will stay open. we are letting the patients know as well what the situation is. we -- hopefully, the briefs that have been filed will -- the judge will have an opportunity to look at those and see how this law is really a trap law. >> this is the only abortion clinic in the entire state of mississippi. >> yes, it is. >> if you are forced to close your doors here, what happens to women in this state? >> we hate to think about what's going to happen to women, and their health care, in this area in the state of mississippi. from jackson, mississippi, it's three hours. any direction that they want to go. it already places a hardship on women because mississippi really is a poor state. we'll be here to try to give them some direction and help, no matter what happens.
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if the clinic is closed, someone will remain here to give them some direction for a long period of time. we know that being in this type of work there are consequences. there are consequences, as we come into work every day. we worry about lots of things. we want to make sure that we are safe. >> abortion is not a quick, safe, simple little deal. >> we want to make sure that the women coming to us are safe. but i have found that the women that work with other women love their jobs. and there's no keeping them away from their employment here at jackson women's health. they love their bosses. they love the owner and they love their jobs. >> how do you know what day is there for abortions? >> they stream in like lemmings. >> you watch --
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>> yeah, we watch, and you guys saw. in the last half hour, over 12 moms came in and are in there now. so it's pretty obvious when they're coming. >> we do take security seriously. we are ever vigilant when we come to work. when we leave work -- and just in the community at large. >> just like any other clinic in like low-income neighborhoods. they provide a wide variety of services and they affect people who mostly look like me, who come from backgrounds that are slarp to my own, and that when you close these clinics, you not only end abortion services but you end other women's health issues which are so important, because especially in low-income communities, women are the backbone of those communities. so when you shut down clinics like these, you hurt people in so many ways. >> the clock is now ticking for the jackson women's health organization, the last remaining abortion clinic in the entire state of mississippi. if or when it goes, if that clinic goes, that will be it for the women of mississippi, for
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what is a constitutional right established 40 years ago next week by the u.s. supreme court. after the break, turns out mississippi is not alone. our special report continues. stay with us. [ male announcer ] if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] you may be an allergy muddler. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. love the air. [ sneezes ]
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there are places in this country that look from the
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outside like nondescript buildings until you realize there are no windows that face the street and there's a guy hanging out at the front door, and that is an plain clothes security guard. and he is guarding the front door. once you get inside from one wing of the building to the other, security cameras monitoring every corner of the building. keypads, not just to get in, one once you're inside to get from one wing to the another. the folks who work at these places sometimes come to work in disguise and when they come to work, they take a different route each day. sometimes they park their cars off site and are driven into the office by a different person each week, who also takes a different route each time. some of them use assumed names outside the office. these places are not field offices of the nsa or the cia or some cagey private military contractor. these are medical offices. this is the way that medicine is being practiced in one small segment of the medical field. it is unlike anything else in american medicine, unlike any
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other part of american life that is not national security or intelligence, but it is how you live if you are an abortion provider in a part of the country where aggressive hostility to abortion rights sometimes manifests as violence. these are not temporary security measures people adopt during a lockdown or at a particular time of crisis. this is day-to-day, everyday life. it is a very strange way to live or work. there are four states in this country where there is only one abortion clinic in the whole state, including mississippi, which as we discussed, is facing the prospect of becoming the first stays where abortion access is effectively gone. if you're the only abortion provider in the state, it turns out that makes your one medical office and, therefore, the women who seek medical care there, it makes them easy targets for people who would like to end abortion in that state through harassment, intimidation or through state government. trying to understand the
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constitutional edge that we are on right now in terms of abortion rights existing on paper versus existing in reality. part one of our special report yesterday was about recovering and regaining access to abortion rights in a part of the country where that access was ended 3 1/2 years ago by murder. that was kansas, where that constitutional right is being protected and regained by a very savvy and determined group and were the focus of last night's special report, part one. tonight, mississippi, which as we just talked about, may become the first state in the country where that constitutional right is not successfully defended. and it goes away. in the middle of those two benchmarks there are these three other states where there is only one clinic, and it turns out that practicing medicine in that circumstance and being a patient in that circumstance is both a hard thing and a very interesting thing. producers from this show visited each of these states this week to find out 40 years after roe what it's like for the people who live this way, who are the only abortion provider in their state, the only thing making a
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right to an abortion a real right where they live and where they work. some of them spoke to us on the record, on camera. some of them asked that we conceal their faces for their safety. watch. >> it is very hostile here. there's no question about it. there are certainly other states that also have hostile climates for women's health, but south dakota is its own unique monster in so many ways. it is a climate that is influenced, in part, by outside agitators who view south dakota as an easy mark. >> when you're the only provider in a state, you become a target for both your local people who disagree with the services you offer and you get put on the national radar and you get put on the national map. people would like to say this state is the first abortion-free state. they would like to just
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completely get rid of all of the clinics and say no abortions happen here. when i walk into the clinic and there's protesters outside, they're using my name and they say things to me as if we're friends and as if we know each other. it doesn't happen in any other business where people are allowed to act like stalkers and use your first name and, you know, try to intimidate you on your way into work. there's no place else where you would work where somebody would be allow the to act that way. >> now i have young children. well, three, 13, 14 and just turned 16. and it affects me in that they are sometimes harassed at school. the anti-choice forces have gone to the schools and actually leafletted my neighborhood with
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my picture and defamatory statements made concerning me. and so it has affected me in that way, but i think it's actually strengthened my children. we've had long discussions about the need for choice and the need for this service. making abortion illegal just kills women. it doesn't stop abortion. >> do you ever worry about your safety? >> i always look around before i step out of a door. but, again, i'm on social security and medicare and have had a good life and, you know, somebody's got to do this, and i won't be intimidated. >> south dakota, north dakota, arkansas. the reasons why each of these states have only one clinic vary from state to state. mississippi, too. but in each of these states it
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was not always the case. each of these states used to have more than one abortion provider and in each of these states only one clinic is now left. and the same intimidation and targeting that in many cases helped shrink the abortion clinic population down to one in each of these states makes it all but certain that no one else will try to open another clinic in these states any time soon. >> in the early '70s, after roe v. wade, there were 17 physicians providing abortion services in central arkansas. as the anti-choice forces became more and more well versed in their coercive tactics, these physicians started to dwindle. by the time i entered abortion practice in 1985, there were five physicians in little rock and one in fayetteville doing terminations. now we have younger physicians
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from out of state come in so i can go on vacation or get a break, but if you're not going to be an abortion provider, solely an abortion provider, then you're going to have severe consequences with the practice outside of the rest of your practice. if you're an ob/gyn, you'll lose patients. if you have partners, they're going to harass you about your abortion services. so over time, we have become the sole provider. because of attrition. >> there is no question that if other providers in this state would also help women, would also provide abortion services, we wouldn't be so isolated and it would be much less easy, it would be more difficult for outside forces to pressure us
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and it would be more difficult for them to get some of this terrible legislation passed. and it would create a whole different atmosphere. so i really do think that the fact that we are the only provider is an enormous problem. and it's an opportunity for the other side to target us and to target women's access to health care and to target women. >> these providers are the only ones left in their state who are sticking it out, willing to take personal risks to provide action to a legal, constitutionally protected matter. in talking to them it becomes clear their lives and work are not just about security cameras and looking over their shoulders and carrying con seemed weapons, although some of them do. it is about doing a job they think is important and rewarding. they might have to fight protesters, their own state's governments and extremist is who threaten them, but they are
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basically what you think of as happy warriors. they believe in the work they're doing, find it satisfying work, and believe in the work they are doing. >> doing this work in south dakota is the rubber meeting the road. for women's rights in this country it is very, very challenging to do this work here. it is like no other place, and for that reason it is, in some ways, the most meaningful part of our whole movement and certainly what i do every day. i have never looked back, ever. ever looked back. and to this day, and i think until the day i die i will consider this work to be the most important work i've ever done. >> the morally right thing to do. we are needed. our skills, our level of care is needed by our patients. and so despite the obstacles
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that we face i think it is extraordinarily important. it's also very rewarding. our patients are often very, very grateful for the care and kindness that they receive from us. >> it's hard to imagine the appreciation that my patients show me. they -- many don't understand. but a lot do understand the sacrifices that we in this clinic, not just me, but the rest of the staff of this clinic make, personal sacrifices, to provide for their care. and that -- that makes me feel really good about my practice. it makes me feel good about what i'm doing. >> you don't work in a place like fargo, north dakota if you are not committed to providing that service and if it doesn't give you rewards back. and the stories i hear from women, the information they give
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us, the stories they tell us. the emotions they display, that's what keeps me coming day after day, is to be able to help those women up through a really difficult time in their life, and there's a lot of satisfaction with that. because they're so thankful and i think that we change them in that moment. we make the world a better place for them by treating them with respect. by treating them kindly and giving them an experience that we hope will kind of set the tone for the next phase of their life. >> roe versus wade, the supreme court decision that mapd abortion legal is 40 years old next week. remaining providers in mississippi and north dakota and south dakota and arkansas are the only reason that is accessible to them in those four states. to keep them protected, the single remaining providers have to be able to stick it out even when it is not easy, even in the face of protest and by
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